Post by Slangh » Thu Nov 26, pm I don't think Goku in the original manga was stupid to begin with. He was raised by a genuine old man in the wild, far away from dishonest people. Him interacting with a city girl like Bulma and exploring the civilized world showed his ignorance, which was part of the humor.
But was he stupid? No, he had a clear mind without an ego blocking the way, so he was able to pick up on things rather quick. He always had sharp senses. During the Buu saga he struck me like a wise mentor kind of character. Completely calm, especially when he tought the fusion technique to the kids and his SSJ3 form was a stoic force of nature, without rage fueling it. His intention was never to fight Buu; he wanted the next generation to take care of it instead.
He's a complete degradation from Buu saga Goku and even less mature than his kid self. DBS Goku is dumb as bricks.
He immediately understood how Merus was holding back, for example, but he also immediately thought about Mafuba once he met an immortal opponent. Universal Survival Arc Goku was perfectly written in the anime, in my opinion. Post by Lord Frieza » Wed Dec 23, pm He's not an idiot but he's not all that bright when it comes to social norms or the finer points human interactions and heavier.
This combined with his horribly stilted intreast and education result in him appearing dumber then he actually is. Post by Anonymous Friend » Thu Dec 24, pm The only time he might be actively acting stupid is if he thinks it might get him out of trouble with Chichi and get him in to some trianing.
Post by blacksymbiote » Mon Feb 01, am Goku doesn't act stupid, he's just very limited in his interests. If it's not fighting or food, he's not very knowledgeable of it. Genuine and immaculate. He sees people as they portray themselves because he has no cynicism in him, in his perpetually innocent mind people are naturally good and truthful, very much like he is. So he doesn't doubt others unless they give him an "in-your-face" reason to and because of that he's also unable to detect sarcasm.
He is the archetypal simple man, living for the simple things. Brought up wild with nature, detests the city, has a traditional wife and family with whom he lives in the mountains. If I take a 1h drive to the countryside the chances of me meeting someone similar to Goku increase. Of course, his case is a bit extreme, but I wouldn't go as far as calling him stupid.
Especially because there's virtuousness in his personality, his "stupidity" is the symptom of him being a morally pure person. Goku is almost a complete different character in the original English dub as opposed to the original Japanese subs.
A lot of western influence on how they felt a main character should be, and act. With Super being out the dub is a lot more in line with the subs portrayal of Goku originally. More topics from this board How to do a level 5 super? Tech Support 1 Answer How do you get the dlc characters?
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Goku was not this dumb before. In fact, he seemed to come off quite intelligent throughout the Cell and Buu saga. It's not just Goku though. Every character so far, I swear, is acting more dumb than usual. Gohan, Krillen, Vegeta, Piccolo. I dunno. Am I just remember the series wrong? While Raditz was finally defeated, Goku ended up losing his own life, due to his easily avoidable blunder. Goku may not be the brightest person on the planet, and he's also extremely exploitable when it comes to his kindness, but if there's one thing that he excels in like no other, it's his training.
It seems like no matter how big of an obstacle lies ahead of him, Goku merely has to train enough to reach that next level, or formulate a plan, and he's good to go. Because of this, you'd think that he'd be a great person to train with, right? Well, if you ask Gohan during his training with his dad during the Cell Games, he might tell you something different. Goku saw potential in his son, and was desperate to find a way to unlock it before their big battle to save the Earth.
When nothing else seemed to work, Goku had the bright idea of firing a powerfully-charged kamehameha wave towards his own flesh and blood. Sure, it ended up working, and Gohan overcame the blast by transforming into a Super Saiyan for the first time— but things easily could have went another way. Good luck trying to explain that one to Chi-Chi. Goku has obtained a plethora of different attacks and techniques over the years, but perhaps none are as useful and potentially overpowered as the Instant Transmission.
Rather than just being another type of energy blast, the Instant Transmission allows Goku to instantly teleport to any possible location, as long as he has an energy source to lock on to. But he doesn't use it nearly as well as he should. The first example of this comes right when Goku first introduces his ability. After planet Namek blows up, Goku and a regenerated Frieza are both on their way to Earth in space pods. Instead of simply teleporting, Goku purposely decides to let Frieza arrive first, simply because he sensed the powerful presence of a "good person" Trunks.
If leaving the planet's safety in the hands of a complete stranger wasn't bad enough, then consider how he wasted precious time by explaining his plan to teleport a time-bomb Cell away from Earth. With his last remaining seconds, Goku blows up King Kai's planet along with Gregory and Bubbles , when he had plenty of time to leave Cell there and bring everyone else back to safety.
If there's one advantage to having a time-traveling friend from the future, it's that they're able to warn or even prepare you for any unfortunate events that haven't occurred yet. Goku was lucky enough to have this when Trunks, Vegeta's grown-up son from the future, warned Goku not only about an incoming threat, but also gave him the vaccine for a heart virus destined to kill him. Goku of course accepted the medicine and then, apparently, forgot about it.
A few years pass when the Z Fighters come up against the sinister Dr. Gero, and his deadly Android 19, and something immediately appears to be wrong, as Goku is winded soon after beginning his fight with the killer machine. Of course, wouldn't you know it— it's the heart virus Trunks warned him about!
This leads to Goku nearly getting killed, and taking 10 days to recover while he fights for his life, leaving Vegeta to take over for him.
Considering the fact that Goku trains non-stop, it's very unlikely he would have noticed the effects of the virus slowly damaging his heart, and simply forgot about the virus altogether. Good thing Gohan remembered for him. It's bad enough when Goku decides to have mercy on dangerous baddies who would turn around and stab him in the back the first chance they get, but who knew he could take it even farther than that?
During the Cell Games, Goku trained with Gohan extensively, and realized that his son had more potential to beat Cell than anyone else. So, after he tries sparring the genetically created fiend to confirm this himself, he decides to let Gohan finish the job— but not before giving the poor, tuckered out monster an energy boost. Anyone who's watched Dragon Ball knows that Senzu Beans are the ultimate pick-me-up, capable of restoring the stamina and energy of whoever consumes them.
While these are usually reserved for Z Fighters that are struggling during battle, Goku thought it would be nice to make the battle between Cell and the inexperienced Gohan a "fair" fight by giving worn-down Cell one of these miraculous beans. This would have been fine and dandy, if the fate of the entire world wasn't on the line Despite Goku's numerous goof-ups during the Cell Games read the last four entries for reference , it concluded with Cell's defeat, and any of his casualties were brought back to life thanks to the Dragon Balls.
Goku however, informs his friends that he'd rather not be revived, much to everyone's shock. His reasoning for this being he believes that he attracts evil people, and that the world would be much safer without him. It doesn't take much brainstorming to realize that this line of reasoning is absolutely ridiculous.
Many times throughout the series, Goku has been incapacitated or even dead already and kept away from a major fight, which only led to unnecessary deaths and destruction.
Even his claim that Gohan is there to protect the world in his place has already been a disproved solution, since it was Goku that teleported the self-destruction Cell away from Earth, saving everyone. It's safe to say the world would be doomed without him, even if he makes dumb decisions at every turn. Out of all the big disasters that the Z Fighters have faced throughout the series, the events of the Cell Saga were arguably the most preventable of all.
The main reason for this being that Future Trunks came back in time and warned them about Dr. Gero and the androids long before they even had to worry about it.
The first thing a rational person might think to do is to track down the mad doctor and stop him before he even has a chance to create these machines, but remember, we're talking about Goku here. Bulma actually suggests that they do this, but Goku declines, insisting that he'd rather train and fight the androids himself.
The fact that he'd purposely put the lives of everyone he cares about all of whom are already dead in Trunks' future timeline just so he can have another fight, is downright awful.
Even if it was a matter of wondering where to look, they could have easily wished to know his location using the Dragon Balls.
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